It's not fatal as long as most of the attention it's getting is here in Left Blogostan. The cable and broadcast infotainment industry ran loops of Jeremiah Wright constantly. Also, white folks just don't tend to be as scary to Mainstreamers as Rev. Wright and his flock. Eccentric at worst. When was the last time Timothy McVeigh came up in discussions of terrorism?

Posted at September 3, 2008 8:23 AM in response to Founder Of Group Palin Courted Professed "Hatred For The American Government"; Cursed "Damn Flag"

Thanks, JohnW1141.  I got your point right away, and I'm as bewildered as you are.  

I have been told in other discussion threads that a screenname with any form of the noun "Zionist" will be provacative, and I suppose it burdens the dynamics with a certain amount of predictability.  Another possibility is that some folks just don't like it when someone farts in their circle jerk.

Anyway, it's time to retire the Zionista brand.  I will remain a part of the Cafe community, but it's time for a change.

Posted at January 17, 2008 7:50 AM in response to Playing With Fire: Smearing Obama Among Jews

You're probably right, artappraiser.  But regarding the news coverage, the story would pop with its own slick graphics and exciting background music had it been a Democrat.

Posted at January 16, 2008 3:28 PM in response to Former GOP Congressman Indicted As Al Qaeda Agent!!!!

AP

Kansas City Star

Posted at January 16, 2008 12:14 PM in response to Former GOP Congressman Indicted As Al Qaeda Agent!!!!

Herzl,

It clearly is a campaign within the Jewish community which is why all the major mainstream Jewish leaders have now repudiated.

Show us exactly where you find the joint condemnation proving, or even suggesting, that the spam campaign originates within the Jewish community.  Here it is...

January 15, 2008

An Open Letter to the Jewish Community: 

As leaders of the Jewish community, none of whose organizations will endorse or oppose any candidate for President, we feel compelled to speak out against certain rhetoric and tactics in the current campaign that we find particularly abhorrent.  Of particular concern, over the past several weeks, many in our community have received hateful emails that use falsehood and innuendo to mischaracterize Senator Barack Obama’s religious beliefs and who he is as a person.   

These tactics attempt to drive a wedge between our community and a presidential candidate based on despicable and false attacks and innuendo based on religion.  We reject these efforts to manipulate members of our community into supporting or opposing candidates.

Attempts of this sort to mislead and inflame voters should not be part of our political discourse and should be rebuffed by all who believe in our democracy. Jewish voters, like all voters, should support whichever candidate they believe would make the best president. We urge everyone to make that decision based on the factual records of these candidates, and nothing less.

Sincerely,

Rabbi Marvin Hier, Founder and Dean, Simon Wiesenthal Center

Rabbi Abraham Cooper, Associate Dean, Simon Wiesenthal Center

William Daroff, Vice President, United Jewish Communities

Nathan J. Diament, Director, Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America

Abraham Foxman, National Director, Anti-Defamation League

Richard S. Gordon, President, American Jewish Congress

David Harris, Executive Director, American Jewish Committee

Rabbi David Saperstein, Director, Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism

Phyllis Snyder, President, National Council of Jewish Women

Hadar Susskind, Washington Director, Jewish Council for Public Affairs

Herzl (cont'd),

Maybe Zionista can go censor Maariv or Haaretz. OR TRY TO. NObody can censor Israelis. TPM is a free community and, with the exception, of blatant clear race or ethnic baiting, anything goes.

Where do I attempt to censor anyone?  Example(s), please? 

I don't like the obscenity though.

Noted.

Posted at January 16, 2008 8:52 AM in response to Playing With Fire: Smearing Obama Among Jews

leftAhead,

So if I understand your argument du jour....

"Du jour"?  I continue to stand by the same argument initiated in our discussion of MJ's post from last week, and continue to back it up with examples.  Meanwhile, myself and others are accused of lying and inconsistency in a virtual evidence-free zone.  I look forward to many more proud moments in public discourse.

Posted at January 16, 2008 6:15 AM in response to Playing With Fire: Smearing Obama Among Jews

How did this get to be about Hillary?

Posted at January 15, 2008 3:20 PM in response to Dirt

I regret the f-bomb, leftAhead.  But in the comment where it occured I had only said that I didn't know "what the fuck" MJ was talking about, not that it never happened (talk about mischaracterizing).  By MJ's own standard, as a Jew and a Democratic PC I should have received such an email and I hadn't -- a simple statement of fact, albeit impatiently and profanely delivered.  Meanwhile, I stand by my statements that you had excerpted above, and the comments I had posted as part of that discussion still support my arguments.  Further, Cohen reproduced the one element of the "Dinerstein" spam -- the Trumpet award to Farrakhan -- which had already been reported by NewsMax and the Council of Conservative Citizens website (hardly a Jewish source) which I had linked to elsewhere in that discussion.

Posted at January 15, 2008 3:08 PM in response to Playing With Fire: Smearing Obama Among Jews

Herzl,

Zionista, Bruce and a few others basically said MJ was lying.

Example(s), please?

Posted at January 15, 2008 2:33 PM in response to Playing With Fire: Smearing Obama Among Jews

Then what are you claiming that MJ was "ahead of the curve" about, and what am I supposed to be eating "some kosher crow" for, leftAhead?  I am not "mischaracterizing the nature of the post" (assuming you mean "Obama Hate Campaign in Jewish Community"); rather I was quite clear about my concern that the implication would be exploited, and supported it with examples from the comments (your "cherry-picking" accusation again).

Try to resist the impulse to make this about personalities, leftAhead, and speak to an issue.

Posted at January 15, 2008 1:24 PM in response to Playing With Fire: Smearing Obama Among Jews