The Economy Just Keeps Going “Bump!”
So there I am, in the CNBC studio early this AM, ready to weigh in on the recent swoon in global financial markets, when they break in with an emergency statement by Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson in support of a quick stimulus package to jumpstart growth.
He does his thing, and I’m ready to start playing some of my own chin music, when the Fed jumps in with their own emergency news: a rare, big inter-meeting rate cut: they took the Federal Funds Rate down three-quarters of a percentage point, and did so without waiting for their scheduled meeting later this month.
Other than the fact that I spent a lot more time in the studio than I expected to, what does it all mean?
First, in case you didn’t already know it, we’ve got big economic problems, and by we, I don’t just mean the US. Global financial markets have been tumbling recently based on a number of factors:
--they too are holding bad debt related to our mortgage crisis. The Bank of China just disclosed that the might have to write off $8 billion more in bad loans;
--they’re worried about an American recession. Contrary to the theory of the “great decoupling,” globalization has made markets more, not less, interdependent. Foreign markets are betting that the US consumer is unlikely to continue to financing their expansions.
--the weakening dollar means diminished US demand for exports, because they are now more expensive to us.
All of this adds up to greater uncertainty about what’s ahead, and that’s spooking markets here and abroad. Each week, market players and policy makers keep expecting to hit bottom, only to find some new, deeper problem surface. Most recently, it’s the companies that insure bonds. Due to their large payouts and their own exposure to bad debt, they too are being downgraded, and when that happens, the debt they underwrite gets downgraded as well.
Second, while I’m glad the Fed is finally on the case, their actions are unlikely to be as effective as we’d all like them to be. I fear they’re “pushing on a string:” cutting the price of credit at a time when too few people want to borrow. Why not? See above: until we hit bottom, borrowers will remain too risk averse to borrow even cheap money.
Also, stock holders have been fleeing to the safety of the bond market, as this has already lowered interest rates, and that too takes some stimulative edge of the Fed’s move (greater demand for bonds raises their prices and lowers their yields).
Finally, one of the main channels of monetary stimulus is through juiced-up activity in the housing market. That ain’t happening.
Which brings us to Hank Paulson and the administration’s stimulus plan. See my recent commentary on the strengths and weaknesses of the White House plan. At this point, the stakes are awfully high to getting this right, and it must be recognized that the administration’s tax rebate leaves out over 50 million households. As EPI will feature in a snapshot later this week, preliminary research by the Brooking-Urban Institute Tax Policy Center shows that over 70% of the Bush tax rebate goes to the top 40% (average income: $134,000) and less than 10% reaches the bottom 40% (average income: $14,300).
Yes, this is inequitable, but it’s also ineffective. We’ll get much better bang for the buck if we target the rebate at those more likely to spend the money. Paulson spoke about the need for bipartisan cooperation, and the White House does appear to have dropped its efforts to hijack the stimulus debate in the interest of long-term, permanent tax cuts. But if they’re not willing to listen to those of us trying to craft a more effective growth package, I’m afraid the economic pain will be a lot greater than it needs to be.
Final snarky comment: isn't it interesting to see how quickly these supply-siders become deeply committed Keynesians when they actually need to accomplish something useful?















Comments (38)
Is it still morning in America?
January 22, 2008 7:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, I responded to you over at Z's blog. "Oh Zionista..."
Maybe it's the dawning of a new America.
January 22, 2008 11:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Theories go out the window when everyone is in a panic. It seems that the "smart" money was more like the "herd" money in this cycle. It's always the same game: tulips, South Sea Islands, dot com stock, or debt repackaging. The values assigned to the "assets" cease to have any relation to the underlying items. Money is borrowed to buy more of the hot commodity and, eventually, the chips get called in.
What's different this time is that we had the experience of 1929 to base policy on. This helped avoid major meltdowns (although the 1970's were no picnic), but starting with Reagan the rules to prevent excessive speculation were removed one after another. Clinton (of all people) oversaw the repeal of the Glass-Steagall act and the SEC has made sure that what ever remained wasn't enforced anyway.
There is no way out of a Ponzi scheme without people losing money. This lesson is now being learned by the newly empowered investors in Asia as well.
If you don't mind a bit of self congratulation, I just looked over an essay I wrote three years ago:
The Coming Crash
I predicted a downturn, but based it upon fundamental dislocations, especially the over reliance on militarism and the trade imbalances. One cannot have a society living on borrowed money and failing to maintain its infrastructure and human capital forever. Viewed from this perspective the speculation in the financial sector can be seen as a natural outgrowth of our policies. When there is no place to invest, the money goes into speculation instead.
--- Policies not Politics
Daily Landscape
January 22, 2008 8:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
Nouriel Roubini has I think brilliantly described this month as the "revenge of the economic fundamentals".
And leaving aside all snarkiness about the fairweather supply-siders, I think the important thing is to put into context the unprecedented nature of what the Fed did, and how the markets reacted.
The Fed has never done what it did today. Only once since 1981 (when the discount rate was in double figures) has the Fed moved rates move than 50bps (Nov-94 tightening), and never has the Fed moved rates 75bps between sceduled meetings. After 9/11, the cut was 50bps.
Is it simply the case that Bernanke is not quite as laconic a character as Greenspan... or are they looking at fundamentals as ugly as the markets are presuming?
Because here's what happened when the Fed cut was announced - Treasuries rallied; Dow Futures gapped; the Dollar spiked momentarily before returning to its current trading range; European markets rallied ~2% and lost it all in the space of 30 minutes of digesting the implications of the cut. Basically, the opposite of what the text-books tell you should happen (because the text-books don't have models for market sentiment).
It is silly season on the financial markets, but it if anyone was in any doubt as to current sentiment, it's pretty clear today. No stimulus, and no rate cut, is changing the economic outlook.
Ps. Davos, I hear, is chilly in January.
January 22, 2008 8:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
Remember that "mushroom cloud" Condi and the Bush gang referred to? Well, it happened....in the economy.
January 22, 2008 8:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
No kidding. Only it wasn't an al-Qaeda member with an imaginary but frightening WMD strapped to his chest but George W. Bush with his unregulated and criminal WOT strapped to his.
What I'm finding interesting this morning/afternoon is that I'm wondering just how long this little rate cut is going to sooth the rich/investor class here in America. Overseas markets have already voiced skepticism regarding a meager rate cut and began jumping off their buildings when Bush opened his mouth about stimulus packages. I predict that without a marked turn around globally tomorrow that our markets will begin leaping off buildings soon enough. The curtain was pulled back and no one that saw is going to believe there's a wizard any longer. Oh great and powerful economy ....
It's ironic really. In our quest to spread our capitalism to all corners we've added to the number of people we need to make happy (or at least lie to for now and convince them that things are not so bad). And not suprisingly, the world sees right through our BS.
January 22, 2008 9:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's being remedied too. Rupert Murdoch is buying up channels everywhere at record pace. Very soon, the entire world will have as dumb an audience as us.
January 22, 2008 2:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
For some time now I have been expecting the "fix" for our economy will be a big inflation, or de-facto devaluation of the dollar. This will shrink everyone's debts, make the $500,000 mortgage payable with deflated dollars, give working people big raises to encourage more spending.
Unfortunately, those of us who are retired, living on fixed incomes, with a few dollars invested, will do the brunt of the suffering from that inflation. But, I suppose that is what older people are supposed to do - suffer.
Hoppy in Sacramento
January 22, 2008 9:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Inflation is inevitable when you cut taxes and wage war at the same time.
It is not all older people who are supposed to suffer...just the "less well off"
January 22, 2008 2:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, if only I were renting now, I'd be sitting pretty, with my choice of cheap houses and cheap mortgages. Alas, I am a homeborrower - I don't kid myself, I'm not a homeowner, as the bank owns most of it and pretty soon it will be worth less than I still owe for it.
January 22, 2008 10:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
Just walk away from it. Threaten a short sale and the bank will settle it with you.
January 22, 2008 2:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey...that could work! The word is that banks aren't exactly champing at the bit to be stuck with foreclosed homes in this market.
January 22, 2008 7:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Calculated Risk, the housing blog, reported Wachovia's disclosure that homeowners are just walking away, even those that are fully paid up on their credit cards or "have otherwise had the capacity to pay".
"To save your world you asked this man to die; Would this man, could he see you now, ask why?" W.H. Auden
January 22, 2008 9:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
That would be us. We're in fairly good shape. We could buy a new house tomorrow and move next week.
Our problem is we can't find a buyer for our current house. Walking away isn't an option, because then we can't get the new house.
I have considered the short sale threat, but then again, you have to have a buyer making an offer of a short sale first. We've been on the market four months now and had one looker. In the last six months, 12 houses have sold in our immediate neighborhood - 10 of those were foreclosures. The two straight sales were in July and August.
As Atrios says, Wheeeeeeeeeeeeee!
January 23, 2008 2:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Final snarky comment: isn't it interesting to see how quickly these supply-siders become deeply committed Keynesians when they actually need to accomplish something useful?"
the only thing they'll accomplish is taking money from the future and putting it into their back pockets to cover their a$$.
To boldly go...
January 22, 2008 10:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly. A tax cut stimulus today on borrowed money is an even larger tax increase tomorrow.
January 22, 2008 2:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Correct, if it is not targeted.
One can pay debts if one's income holds or increases, or if one's other expenses decrease. If a credit was offered that had to be spent on something that reduced future energy use, both the country and the individuals would benefit.
The money would first get spent on the hardware and/or installation, so suppliers of capital goods or efficient cars would see a bump. Then the user would have more money left over in his budget, given reduced energy costs, so he would be able to save (increasing available deposits and lowering borrowing costs for others) or he could buy more of the same money-generating hardware, or he could pay down debt.
Any of those options improve the lives of everyone else, it seems. Oil refiners and coal producers would see less business, but that should be the only sector not helped.
January 22, 2008 2:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Looks like a classic liquidity trap. Hence the proposal to drop money on people out of a helicopter. But a couple of hundred bucks ain't gonna do squat.
January 22, 2008 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
A Bush tax cut primarily benefits the wealthy; that is, those who need it least?
I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.
I am hoping that this dose of reality finally shoots down the voodoo known as supply-side economics. But I'm not holding my breath.
January 22, 2008 11:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
With the exception of Barney Frank, I don't hear any Democrats pointing out how the current problems are a direct result of the supply-side laissez-faire voodoo economics the Republicans have been peddling for the past 4 decades.
The national media pundits' ignorance (to which they admit) makes them allergic to covering economics and unless and until the Dems make a forceful case explaining exactly what went wrong and how, the Repubs will escape blame for the current mess.
Considering Hillary's economic guru Robert Rubin sat atop Citicorp (heckuva job, Bobbie), Obama appears equally in thrall to Wall Street, and since both sides of Capitol Hill are more focused on working with the White House to deliver something, anything they can call a stimulus package, rather than drawing a sharp contrast with Republican economics, you're smart no to hold your breath.
January 22, 2008 12:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
deliver something, anything they can call a stimulus package, rather than drawing a sharp contrast with Republican economics, you're smart no to hold your breath.
because those economics-- my opinion, turn out to be the same economics packaged differently.
To boldly go...
January 22, 2008 2:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
I imagine that quite a few of us are watching the Dow Jones with trepidation these days or struggling with our mortgage or credit card payments and I thought a little news from Africa might make us all stop and count our blessings.
There is this war in the Congo, you see, and it's been going on for ever so long. I'll let Wikipedia bring you up to speed:
The Guardian has this to say in today's edition:So you can see that although we haven't been following it very closely, it has managed quite well without us. Sorry to stray so far off topic.http://seaton-newslinks.blogspot.com/
January 22, 2008 1:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
I thought a little news from Africa might make us all stop and count our blessings.
for those of us who see connections between blood and oil, these stories only make the future seem bleaker and make forgiveness seem impossible.
To boldly go...
January 22, 2008 2:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is of course an election year. Would everyone in DC be falling all over themselves to postpone-- er, prevent-- a recession if the ruling party wasn't already in deep doodoo with the voters?
January 22, 2008 3:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
JPF311:
I had wanted to respond to an earlier post of yours, but we were outliving the particular thread. So I will return to your post here. I won't get into your "seen one recession, seen them all" meme; that is a very common refrain among a certain class of economic observers. However, you dismissed my view that a depression was possible by referring to the likelihood of an asteroid destroying the earth or a repeat of the civil war...long odds by anybody's count. As you put it, my "sky is falling" viewpoint was a leftwing view occurring among those so consumed by Bush hatred that they wanted the economy to fail. Here is your quote: "What I do see in this "Sky is falling" meme on the Left is a transference of Bush hatred". After you wrote this I read the following from that well-known Bush-hating, capitalist-loathing, leftist Mort Zuckerman of US News and World Report:
"Zuckerman: I don't think it's an exaggeration. It's an understatement. You've heard me say here I think we are facing the worst financial crunch and crisis since the Great Depression. You have the entire banking system now that is virtually frozen and there are not just the sub-prime mortgage thing. There are other things called credit default swaps where they're going to lose as much money, 250 billion dollars on. The banks are frozen. They're not making loans because they have such huge debts that they have to take onto their balance sheets and nobody knows how to deal with that because you had a dramatic...you had two bubbles that have burst at the same time. The housing bubble which has collapsed in this country. The first time since the Great Depression that housing values have gone down for a year since the depression and it's going to go down even more next year. The credit crunch, you've just exploded the whole credit system in this country. We were way over leveraged. The banking system was over-leveraged. People didn't even know about it. The bankers didn't know about it. They didn't access the risk. Now that risk is piling in and every body's going to pay the price. Uh it's going to stimulate nothing other, I mean it's going to destimulate the economy. Nobody has money to lend. They're saving all their money to pay off their debts. They're borrowing money or looking at uh the rest of the world to enhance their capital and it's still not going to solve their problems."
I really think Mr.Zuckerman, who I do not consider a leftist seems to be expressing a more dire and negative viewpoint than any on that thread. Do you really believe his view comes from an all-consuming Bush-hatred and a desire for the whole capitalist system to collapse. Don't you agree?
January 22, 2008 7:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
The closest we have come to repeating the conditions that led up of the Great Depression was about twenty years ago. We had a stock market crash, a massive bank crisis, a long-running agricultural recession and multiple clueless GOP presidenicies.
But no depression, just the recession of 90-91.
Why not?
I can think of several reasons: a more diversied economy, the FDIC, etc.
Things which exist today too.
We will no more repeat the Great Depression than we will repeat the Civil War.
And would you really be doing the Chicken Little shtick if Al Gore were president right now? Somehow I doubt it.
January 23, 2008 3:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here today from another Chicken Little leftist Robert (not Paul's son) Samuelson. Gee what would HE be saying if Gore were President right now?
"Samuelson: But if the subprime failure turns out to be a preamble to a larger financial breakdown, flowing from the creation of new securities that offered short-term trading possibilities but whose long-run risks were underestimated, then the mood could turn uglier. Indeed, many Americans may conclude that capitalism has run amok."
January 23, 2008 5:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
you know a lot. the future. what I would do (say?) if Al Gore were president. You do not address Zuckerman's comments. Nevermind. He is probably deranged and/or is saying what he is saying to help his preferred candidates (Dems? Republicans? Bloomberg?) from winning the next election. Pretty convoluted but up your alley. In terms of the record of the mighty "left", I think I prefer much of its analysis and prognosis than warmed-over conventional wisdom served in the morning by the dailies and at dinnertime by the networks and repeated ad nauseum by otherwise intelligent observers. They told us all about Iraq; how "shock and awe" has changed warfare forever; they tell us all the time about the new depression-proof (hell, recession-proof) economy (no regulation needed...free markets now and forever...let the stock markets and Citibank and Countrywide handle social security...don't you think banks can do a better job than A GOVERNMENT AGENCY). And like you, they mock and belittle any contrary opinions although they are not quite so dismissive.
January 23, 2008 5:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
BevD asks: Is it still morning in America?
It sounds more like ‘mourning in America’ but I wonder, why now? Maybe it’s ‘moaning in America’ by those who have been reaping the rich rewards of our trickle-down economy but now see the flood waters reaching up to their houses on the hill.
Granted, mine is an economic illiterate’s take, but the way I see it, the working poor and lower middle class are not panicking because there’s nothing new here to them. And I understand that the overall economy must be stabilized and there are many people with retirement funds in the market that need protecting. But it seems to me that only when big corporations, especially financial institutions, start sinking that the government starts bailing water. It may only be hyperbole to say that the corporation has replaced the worker as to who is America, but what if it isn't?
After 9/11 we threw a few bills to the rabble down below but bailed out airlines and market firms and the real investor class in the interest of stabilization. I know that the CW is that we can’t let financial institutions crash because that will dent the system, but if it were up to me, B of A and company would be required to refund the $150 billion in rebates. From the bankruptcy bill to this, there is one message: the higher up the less responsible.
Bush has backed off making the upward redistribution of wealth (tax cuts) permanent (man, I bet he’s kicking himself for waiting a few months too long), but is he talking about anything that will change the fundamental slide of our economy? Even rebates to “consumers” will be put towards credit debt or spent in Wal-Mart, hardly better than being spent in China.
Bush’s answer to the ridiculous trade deficit and diminishing dollar is more exports- of jobs! And if you can’t export them fast enough, expedite importing workers. It is the philosophy of “greed is good’ And “I’ve got mine” that guides us. Our grandchildren won’t be asking who lost China or who lost the Middle East, but who lost America. In the end, we rise together or fall apart.
January 22, 2008 5:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jared:
If you think that's snarky, consider that no one on Wall Street or in the major media seemed all that concerned when this problem seemed to be simply that poor and lower middle-class people being foreclosed upon.
Poor people losing their homes?
"Ehh so what..."
Then Wall Street wakes up and realizes they're into it as well, and suddenly it's
"Hey! We have a serious problem here!"
Its not just the speed with which they switch to Keynes, but the recognition that the problem even affects them at all.
-Dave Adams-
January 22, 2008 5:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I had that same thought this AM...we really didn't learn anything over the wkend that we didn't already know...it's just that global markets finally woke up to extent of the contagion.
January 22, 2008 7:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
The big money people will not lose a lot in the stock market, even if the market continues to drop. They just hedge their investments to limit their losses. The same can't be said of smaller investors, who own mutual funds. We small investors will lose the most if the market continues to drop, and our losses will become major gains for the big money investors.
I think the coming election has far more to do with the sudden realization by the government that a problem is out there than does any risk to the monied class. It is even possible that some of the "advisors" to the government have been reading up on the effect of the 1930's depression on the near term future of President Hoover's party - wow! I just realized that it is also President Bush's party. Who would have thought that???
Hoppy in Sacramento
January 22, 2008 9:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
The people who need it most- the middle and working class people- will immediately put the money right back into the economy by spending it with retailers for essentials and with corporations for bill payments and debts. All sectors of the economy will benefit from this targeted stimulus.
The GAO report on prospective stimuli strongly states that the most effective targets are lower income families and the best immediate results will be achieved through increased unemployment and food stamp aid.
The argument that direct payments to working class and poor families will just be spent on Chinese imports and will only benefit the economy of China (see Sen. Judd Gregg, R-NH et al) is cruel, an utter fraud and completely ignores the best assessments of economists and social policy experts in and out of government. If Chinese goods are bought, they will be purchased from American retailers who have already paid for these goods, and will directly benefit American businesses who are also hurting fom the tightening of consumer spending.
January 22, 2008 6:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you’re referring to my facetious remark, more than anything, I was taking a swipe at Wal-Mart who became giants with the motto of “buy American.” I heard the argument somewhere equating shopping to buying imports but didn’t realize it was that serious (claiming that a consumer rebate would benefit China more). I agree that credit to low income people more than any other sector would be spent on basics and provides the best stimulus (and I thought the same in 2002). The problem, then as now, is that the proposed infusion of cash is not targeted enough. And, as I said, I don't think the fundamental problems of this supply side economy are being addressed. I suspect when it is all compromised out, there will be even more relief to the financial markets and upper income people as part of the stimulus package.
January 22, 2008 7:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
The supply siders become Keynesians in the face of a recession because, as Keynes showed, monetary policy can kill a boom, but it can't stop a bust. One point, though. It was my understanding that even though the dollar is falling, prices of imports here are not rising much, because foreign manufacturers are holding US prices steady to hold on to the US market.
January 23, 2008 6:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
The dollar has fallen less against certain Asian currencies for that reason, but it has fallen there and elsewhere. Import prices were up 12% in '07 compared to 2.5% in '06, but that's mostly oil. Still, page through this report and you'll get the story--import prices are on an upward trend.
This is a constraint for the Fed, as lower interest rates put further downward pressure on the dollar.
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/ximpim.pdf
January 23, 2008 7:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
The FED is not constrained by anything -- except, perhaps, the Zero-Interest-Rate Bound.
It will continue to lower rates until no economically sensible American saves a penny, inflation becomes rampant, and all manufacturing jobs have left the country.
N.B. Low interest rates, here, mean cheap borrowings to invest in capital goods in developing countries. Result: outsourcing. And since Americans don't and won't save at these interest rates, the Fed will have to print money for its friends -- the investment bankers. Result: inflation.
January 23, 2008 7:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wish I could particpate in this discussion with the kind of financial acumen you all apparently bring. I will instead add what only a nearly 60 liberal can throw in the pot: supply side economics doesn’t work. Deregulation of industries created a selfish culture that has destroyed the chances of countless Americans in the Middle Class. I say Middle Class with a certain blushing affection. I AM the middle class. I am college educated, my husband has degrees up the wootsie, my kids have PhDs, I’ve got a sticker for my gas-friendly car. My sister, a teacher, is 64, renting a small apartment, and she’s in $20,000 of debt to companies who are charging her 29% interest. I’ve been laid off from my last two jobs by school systems, and bring my grand intelligence to a part time secretarial job while I collect a partial unemployment claim. My husband is gray with the responsibilities of belief and hope, trying for many years to keep a small business afloat while he travels, trying to raise money from arrogant investors, until he topples into the house at night. We’d sell our house, but now we can’t, as it’s all we have – no savings, pensions or IRAs, and the house is borrowed against past its value for fix-ups, and the question is becoming, will we live long enough to sell it? My children and their babies all live far away, because they couldn’t afford to stay in California. One of them is a college professor living in student housing because it’s the only way he’ll ever be able to save for a house. My other kids bought a house in Michigan, then of course were unable to sell it because who could sell a house in Michigan? They’re now renting a house where their jobs took them. We carry a ridiculous insurance policy that won’t do a spit of good if we ever get sick, because someone who doesn’t care will deny us coverage. I haven’t been to a doctor in 15 years. I am well educated, well off, better off than millions of other people in this country, and awash with gratitude that I had a lovely family. I don’t expect there is any hope in my final years. All of our rule-following, all of our buying into the system, has led us to a reality we won’t be able to handle. And I have a sweet family to help me. What about people who don’t? What about people who are alone? I’m believing that we need to spend the next years leveling the playing field, and rejecting the self-serving economics that allowed the rich and the corporate to indulge their greed while the rest of us just paid our taxes with a smile and thought it would all come out. Gee, I’m depressed.
January 23, 2008 6:10 PM | Reply | Permalink