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No, I don't think the Nutmeg State is attracting too much attention. No, I don't think it makes sense for Netizens to shift their money and interest elsewhere. And no, I don't see that Mr. Lamont has grasped the first and to some degree only rule of elections: go on the offensive. Should one of you spot him, perhaps you could mention this to him. In a hurry. Since to quote the ship captain in Master and Commander, "there's not a moment to lose."

And yes, btw, hounding the incumbent until he states whether he agrees with the Republicans who are supporting him would be an example of going on the offensive; as matters exist now, Mr. Lamont is allowing the incumbent to be all things to all people. Don't pout and rest, Mr. Lamont, go on the offensive. I would expect to see an article every day in the Hartford Courant about your assertions, which should come like waves crashing on the beach. Oh, and yes, politics ain't beanbag.


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In political campaigning the best offense is a good offense...if the GOP wants to claim Joe Lieberman as one of theirs, and Joe Lieberman seems fine with this, then Joe Lieberman is the republican in this race...and hammer on it!!!  C'mon Ned take the offense!!! 

Unfortunately when the spotlight is on Ned, he looks like a deer in the headlights.  He was on NBC news tonight - not good news.  But, he chose to run for the Senate, has been chosen by Connecticut as it's Democratic Candidate, so is obligated to run a vigorous campaign, not take vacations.

All elected Democrats should be supporting Ned - that's part of what being a member of a political party means.  Hillary and Bill both should make it clear that Ned is the man.  All Democratic Senators not running this year should make it clear that Ned is the man.  All Democratic governors should make it clear that Ned is the man.   Otherwise, the primary is a joke, and the butt of the joke is the Connecticut voter who helped pay for that election.

Hoppy in Sacramento

C'mon guys, August is vacation time for democratic candidates! Remember Dukakis, Kerry?

At least we know it all ends well in the end.

If I were Ned, I would just keep repeating that it is time for a new direction in Washington, and that Connecticut voters have a unique opportunity to lead the Nation in that new direction.

To quote Mr. Marshall:

FUCK Lieberman, et al.

Politics ain't beanbag.

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I love how Ned Lamont is now getting all kinds of advice on how to run a campaign. He got in the race as a nobody against an incumbent with 70% approval ratings and beat him flat. Now everybody is giving him advice. Lamont will do just fine. The only negative ad he ran was Joe Lieberman's own words with a graphic morphing into George W. Bush. He's got plenty o' bullets left in the gun to take down Mighty Joementum. And all this quick knockout talk is off the mark. Joe Lieberman has the biggest ego in DC and was never going to drop out of the race. Anyone who saw his "concession" speech should recognize that Joe Lieberman believes Joe Lieberman is the world's most important man.

Lieberman called Lamont a Republican the entire primary and now he's calling him a dangerous leftist. I'm guessing Lamont has media in the works to bring that craven flip-flop, along with Lieberman's pork funding method for Homeland Security that directly contradicts the 9/11 commission, Lieberman's breezy confirmation of Michael Brown in which he never so much as checked his references, and his massive ties to lobbyists in DC. And this thing called Iraq is not getting any better.

Lieberman's 'principled' switch from true Democrat to the GOP candidate can be destroyed in 2 weeks of paid media with just the facts. What is Lieberman going to do in response - have the GOP 527s attack Lamont? Lieberman introduced legislation requiring 527s to report their funding like PACs. It's going to play into Lamont charge that Lieberman is an out of touch DC creature to have Virginia-based GOP-backed 527s smearing Lamont in a "new politics of unity and purpose". Unity between Joe Lieberman and whatever craven method keeps him in his House of Lords finery for the purpose of keeping the GOP's favorite poodle peeing on the Democratic rug. Well, screw that.

Ned Lamont is running on optimism, face-to-face campaigning in CT, and change. He's got plenty o' time to even the independent vote and gain the 5% points among partisans he needs to win. All this talk of Connecticut being a distraction and Lamont screwing up his campaign is hooey. It's fun and good practice for the netroots to smack down everyone of Lieberman's bogus charges and flip-flops in August. Come October there will be tens of thousands of netroots denizens so energized by Lieberman's hypocrisy and slander that they spit fire. That fire will be unleashed in local races, not Connecticut.


With many top and influential Republicans supporting the re-election of Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman, running as an independent against Democratic candidate Ned Lamont, it behooves Democratic leaders to wake up and give strong support to Mr. Lamont. Republicans, from the President on down, have abandoned the Republican candidate, Alan Schlesinger.

So the Democrats have, in effect, a race against Mr. Lieberman as the Republican candidate. While there has been on site support by John Edwaeds, endorsement by Howard Dean, Russ Feingold and others, and some financial support from Senators Clinton and Kerry, much more needs to be done. We need to have campaign appearances by Democratic big guns, expert consulting, and continuing strong endorsements.

This is a fight against Republicans and the Democrats must play to win. Some may fear the Republican plans use Lamont as evidence of the dangerous leftward drift of the Democratic party, but, really, can they convince anyone that Ned Lamont is a wild-eyed extremist?

Homer Hewitt
www.altara.blogspot.com

Why do I get the feeling that most Democratic leadership is perfectly happy supporting the "Republican" candidate?

If Lamont loses could be his mistake was in running as a Democrat in the first place. As long as the Democratic Party is this conflicted, it seems that we don't really have a big tent, we have two tents, and one is more comfortable with Republicans than its fellow Demoratic tent.

This is a question, not a comment:
What about the old saw that the larger voting public--those weird people who don't read blogs and obsess about races in states they don't even live in and have never even set foot in--don't start paying attention to politics till after Labor Day?

I say that as someone who also thought it was a mistake for Lamont to go on vacation after the primary. And how much of Lieberman's lead is due to the uncritical attention he got and gets from the MSM (the frustratingly erratic Chris Matthews being the exception)?

Well, all I can say is, did you do any research at all before writing this column? Like, actually investigate what Lamont is doing now and in the immediate future?

The answer to that question is obviously, "no," as he is in the news here in CT (has been above the fold in the Waterbury Republican-American twice in the past week) and has an immediate event calendar on his web site that looks like this:

Ned will attend the Lyme DTC picnic Date: Sat, August 19th 5:30 pm

Join Ned at the 105th annual Hamburg Fair, in Lyme Connecticut
Date: Sat, August 19th 6:30 pm

Ned will join the Burlington Democrats at their summer picnic
Date: Sun, August 20th 1:00 pm

Ned to speak at Machinists picnic in Granby
Date: Sun, August 20th 2:00 pm

Join Ned at the Dozynki Polish Harvest Festival
Date: Sun, August 20th 3:30 pm

Orange DTC picnic
Date: Thu, August 24th 6:30 pm

Ned will participate in a candidate forum at Emanuel Synagogue in West Hartford
Date: Sun, September 17th 11:00 am

The New Britain Seniors will host Ned at a candidate forum
Date: Tue, September 19th 1:00 pm

Gosh, what a concept -- he's politicking in his home state instead of schmoozing Beltway pundits.

mp

If you have to ask what jazz is, you'll never know.
-- Louis Armstrong

You have to plant the seeds before you can grow a tree. In the '04 presidential election, most people decided who they were voting months before the election. Bush spent $100 million lambasting Kerry beginning the week after Kerry won the nomination. There was little that Kerry could do after that to regain his credibility.

Lamont has personal wealth and there is no excuse for him not to have put ads on the air after his victory. In fact, he should have had commercials ready to go given Lieberman's threat to run as an independent. What I find frustrating is that Lamont has personal wealth and no proven progressive record. Sherrod Brown could use the money more and has a solid progressive record. But hey: Lamont Lamont Lamont.

Not to mention Jack Aubrey's favorite maxim from his own hero, Lord Nelson: "Never mind tactics--go straight at em!"

The other question we don't know the answer to: how much time did he spend while in Maine on the phone, chatting up (so to speak) all the local Dem leaders who were required to support Lieberman during the primary but now need to be swung behind the Dem candidate? My guess would be, a lot.

sPh

I think what's Reed's commenting on is his visibility. He was very visible during the primary - thanks to great ads, and plenty of challenging public statements. He doesn't have to stop politicking the locals one bit to spend 15 minutes a day on TV attacking Lieberman. And God forbid he fall into the Democratic fallacy of being too highbrow to take the highroad. Now's (or better, a week and a half ago) the time to knee the opponent in the nuts.

Why do I care if he's "visible" in DC or Colorado? He's visible here. Let's see, according to Google news, between 8/12 and 8/19 there were 164 articles in CT news sources referencing Ned Lamont. That works out to what -- 24 articles or mentions a day. Yeah, really "invisible."

The guy went from completely unknown to Democratic nominee for the Senate in four months. I think he and his campaign team know what they are doing.

mp

If you have to ask what jazz is, you'll never know.
-- Louis Armstrong

You can't possibly cover enough ground at local events to reach enough people. Besides, most campaign events are such that the candidate is preaching to the choir, and are a deceptive way to gauge real support.

When someone criticizes what appears to be, at least to me, a poor job by Ned Lamont's campaign, it shouldn't be taken personally. It's a stretch to say that Lamont has been effective since he won the primary. Going on vacation afterward was stupid regardless of how much he was on the phone--if in fact he really was. He could have gone on a real offensive against Lieberman and tried to seal a victory in the first week instead of dragging this out.

I'm a Democrat and want the Democratic nominee to win, but that doesn't mean I think Lamont is being effective--in fact, he's losing handily according to the latest poll.

Hear, hear!

Let's hope more people like you get hired to replace the beltway Dem campaign consultants that have been killing us. Bring the fight, or get out of the way!

I think he should have done more, but I sincerely doubt that he could have sealed the victory given that 1) the corporate media treated him like a curiosity who just happened to beat "our man" Joe Lieberman and 2) the party in unison did not call for Lieberman to drop out in honor of the results of the primary.

To the MSM, Lamont was just an accident that happened. If he had called upon Lieberman to bow out (which he should have, but still), he would have been mocked as a nobody trying to dictate terms to a somebody, no matter how justified Lamont would be.

Hardly ineffective. this is the closest it's been since they polled a few months ago, back then Lieberman was favored by 70%.

WHO is being ineffective?

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TV, TV, and more TV. Local events are nice in primaries (though even there they are of limited value), but in a general election fight with, what, a million and a half voters to talk to, TV is the only real way to do it. Take the criticism personally all you want, be the "little guy standing up to the beltway idiots", whatever. We're just offering some objective reaction. Fact is, Lamont has pissed away his momentum by not IMMEDIATELY going on the air with a defining ad or two. If he needs to go dark for money reasons, the couple weeks around Labor Day would have been a much better choice. Not right after the primary.

What I'm afraid of is that Lamont is going to try and win with an "outsider" campaign that is "people powered" and "based on issues." Pul-leeze. That and three-fifty will by you a grande latte. His only path to victory runs through about $10 million of his own money (or $9 million of his and $1 of everyone else's). Cynical, of course. But true, by every historical model you can muster.

Here's the problem: Even though Lamont won the primary, he (amazingly) has a net negative approval rating, considerably worse than Lieberman's. And he has a 70% name ID. That's very very bad. He needs to turn that around fast, and the only way to do that is with some good ads.

You know what, I have no idea (obviously) what he did, but knowing a lot of people with the same sort of background as Lamont, my guess is that he did almost nothing. Vacations are vacations to the landed gentry, and Lamont is really not a political animal (much to his everlasting credit).

Unleash underdog again, Ned.

Joe Lieberman must think that little pooch is a werewolf.

I don't think there is a more important race in the country.

If Ford takes Frist's place, there will be a wonderful change of scenery but that is about all as near as I can tell. The two men appear ideological twins.

Lieberman is the best proof you can find that rating of votes is far from a great index of a politician's value or leanings.

No problem at all with the vacation for a long weekend. The campaign had to draw a line under the Tuesday win, and retool, and the fact that Lieberman had to make the point he was still in the game is his deal.

Give the Lamont crew time to pitch Lieberman out of the CT Democratic Party Office, and move in itself. Give them time to crunch the Tuesday election results, and work on strategy and tactics in light of those results.

Of course they are going to need everyone who can convert a voter into a Lamont Voter going. But some recommendations I've noticed around the blogs are more than likely to not do that. Beware of who you take campaign advice from. Some advice givers are not necessarily pro-Lamont.

I think it is useful to let Bush/Rove/Cheney spin out just what their support really involves, and then let the guy who is anti-Bush/Rove/Cheney make a come back on them. The former are in the low 20's as the polling goes.

Forget the message that this is a lesser importance contest. Who is sending the message that one should not invest? The difference is not just between two progressive Democrats, it is about much more, and that needs to be articulated by the CT folk. Yes, it is Iraq, but it is much more.

For example, as I understand the play, last year the CT PTA's and the Teachers Unions and the Ed Establishment and the School Superintendants all went to Joe and asked for his help in getting waivers from the No Child Left Behind laws and regulations because they all agreed there were better ways. Joe refused to meet with this coalition of ed interests. Subsequently they had to file a federal law suit which is in the courts now. Why didn't he meet with his own folk on this? He needs to be pounded on this because it is about not really representing local concerns.

Andrew Sullivan writes:

Nedrenaline: The long comedown
http://time.blogs.com/daily_dish/2006/08/nedrenaline_the.html

It's tough to say goodbye; it'll be tough for bloggers to stop shovelling bucks at the first candidate they actually sorta-elected. But how much support does Lamont really need? The man is worth at least $100 million. Now that he's built his political cred and a successful campaign team, he's probably gotten all the blog help he needs.

Mr. Hundt Says:

Don't pout and rest.

This is just silly.  Or maybe he had a mental lapse:  the column was intended to be "advice to Joe"

Thanks to naugiedaugie for the research:  Ned's schedule hardly looks like the schedule of a pouter and rester.  And NEVER underestimate the importance of on the ground, face-to-face retail politics in New England.  Look not only at the number of events at which he's appearing.  Look at the venues and the sponsors of those events.  Lamont is connecting with those Democratic groups who supported Lieberman in the primary, not a bad thing to do...cutting the legs out from under the putative "independent" running with not-so-covert Republican support.   Events of this kind are a way of cementing a bond with those democratic party members who voted the other way the first time around.  Smart move, Ned.

And DON'T put Lamont into a no-win position where he's accused of being an "ordinary" media-driven candidate disconnected from the average citizen, buying the election through slick commercial advertisements on every channel every minute, and spending his own money to do it.  A certain Senator (soon, one hopes, to be Mr.) Lieberman leveled those charges against him in the primary.  Do I sound disenthralled with Hundt's advice and with some of the other advice I see posted here?  (Yup, I guess I do).

aMike


Damn right Lamont should have gone on the offense right after the Primary. OK, if he wanted to give Holy Joe a day or even two in order to see what he was going to do, that would have been understandable. But to allow all this National TV coverage pillorying him (Lamont) with no strong response and counter attack has been pure idiocy.

The FIRST thing the Lamont campaign should have done (and this should have been done the very next day after the Primary) was to DEMAND an apology from the Lieberman camp for accusing Lamont's people of computer hackery with absolutely no evidence whatsoever. That immediately would have put Holy Joe back on his heels, (where he belongs), and forced msm coverage of Lamont's side (aka The Truth) about that damn hacking story that got so much coverage.

Yes, it's nice that Lamont is doing lots of CT compaiging. But most people don't attend campaign events, they watch TV. I fear Lamont's pissed away all the momentum he had. If he doesn't start fighting hard soon, he'll never get it back.

http://www.myspace.com/ladyskay

Lamont is doing what he needs to do.

Joe has a tough row to hoe. take a gander here

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4113/779/1600/townmap--demsenprimary2006.png

As i pointed out before, what the polls are showing is Lieberman continuing to lose support, and Lamont continuing to gain it.

He doesn't need Republicans to win the statewide race, althoough he alreadfy has 15% or so of them. He is concentrating on winning over Indies and Dems in the few areas he lost. That's good politicking.

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Two minor corrections: 1) Andrew Sullivan didn't write that, but a guest blogger and 2) TPM Reader DK, not Josh Marshall, wrote the initial TPM post. That said, I hope that what this guy is saying is true, because I'd like to think that the Lamont campaign is capable and well funded enough to make it on its own.

Yup. 

What is more, families are splitting over who to vote for in the general election.  My sample of one goes like this:  He is voting for Lieberman and She is voting for Lamont.  They can not be the only ones.

Hear hear, hear hear!

Bushco delenda est

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